Dispatches

How Kosovo Created its Own Liberal Islam

July 2008

On February 17, 2008, Kosovo declared independence from Serbia. Some are concerned about what NATO, the United Nations, and the European Union have nurtured there since the military and humanitarian intervention in 1999. James Jatras, a U.S.-based advocate for the Serbian Orthodox Community, put it bluntly last year when he said Kosovo was a “a beachhead into the rest of Europe” for “radical Muslims” and “terrorist elements.” It’s an assertion without evidence. “We’ve been here for so long,” said United States Army Sergeant Zachary Gore in Eastern Kosovo, “and not seen any evidence of it, that we’ve reached the assumption that it is not a viable threat.”


Nine in 10 of Kosovo’s citizens are ethnic Albanians, and more than 90 per cent of them are at least nominal Muslims. Most are so thoroughly modern and secularised that moderate doesn’t quite say it. The only word that can fairly describe Islam as practiced by the majority of Albanian Muslims is liberal. No nation can be entirely free of extremists, but Kosovo is one of the least religiously extreme Muslim-majority countries on Earth. Radical Islamists aren’t there in significant numbers now, and they aren’t likely to be in the future. Some places may be fertile ground for radicalism in the future, but Kosovo isn’t one of them for many of the same reasons that Christian theocracy isn’t coming to Western Europe.


I arrived here shortly after the declaration of independence, and the first thing I looked for – as always when I visit a Muslim-majority country – was the treatment and status of women.


Women who dress with their hair, ankles, and sometimes even faces showing in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Taliban-controlled parts of Afghanistan are often beaten or worse.


In Kosovo, by contrast, almost all women, even in small villages, dress like women in the rest of Europe. Streets, cafés, restaurants, and bars are not all-male affairs as they are in much of the Islamic world, where women spend almost all their lives behind walls. If it weren’t for the occasional mosque minaret on the skyline, there is little visible evidence that Kosovo is a Muslim-majority country at all. Kosovo looks, feels, and is European.


A small number of well-heeled Islamic extremists from the Gulf states have moved into Kosovo to rebuild damaged mosques and transform liberal Balkan Islam into the more severe version found in the deserts of Saudi Arabia. They’ve had a small amount of success with a similar project in nearby Bosnia, but they’re meeting stiffer resistance from Kosovo’s religious community as well as from secular citizens.


“We are working very hard to stop these kinds of movements,” said Professor Xhabir Hamiti, of the Islamic studies department at the University of Pristina. “These kinds of movements are dangerous for all nations, for all faiths, for all religions. We are Muslims, but we think the European way. I am a Muslim, I am a scholar, I know how to deal with Islam in my country. There is no need for Arabs to come here. I have no need for their suggestions, no need for their explanations. We created our Islam ourselves here, and we can continue our Islam with our own minds.”


It would be wrong to suggest Kosovo has no Islamists at all, but in the last election in late 2007, the country’s single Islamic party gained only 1.7 per cent of the vote. Kosovo is not the Middle East, and Albanians are not Arabs. The majority converted to Islam relatively recently under Turkish Ottoman rule, and Albanian culture was first solidly Christian. “We Albanians,” Dom Lush Gjergji recently wrote, “descendants of the Illyrians, are Christians from the time of the Apostles… Without Christianity there would be no Albanian people, language, culture, or traditions… Albanians consider Christianity their patrimony, their spiritual and cultural inheritance.” Gjergji is a Catholic priest, but I heard similar comments from many who self-identify as Muslims. “Albanian people are not very religious,” said Agron Rezniqi, of the Friendship Association between Kosovo and Israel “We come from Catholicism, and for that, we are not such strong Muslims.”


Perhaps the best evidence available that Albanian Muslims, in both Kosovo and Albania proper, differ radically from their Arab world counterparts is their relationship with Jews and with Israel. Jews in Albania had an almost 100 per cent survival rate during the Nazi occupation. The country was known as a safe haven where Jews could find protection under the noses of the German authorities. According to Dan Michman, chief historian at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, there were three times as many Jews in Albania at the end of the Second World War as there were at the beginning.


Both Albania and Kosovo have excellent relations with Israel, and Israelis are more than welcome to travel and even live among Albanians. An Israeli from Tel Aviv named Shachar Caspi opened a bakery and a bistro bar in Pristina. “Nobody has given me any problems or been against Israel,” he told me. “[Kosovars] had good relations with Jewish people even back in the old days. And nobody here is radical. On the contrary, people are very warm, they are very nice, they have taken Islam to a beautiful place, not to a violent place. When they hear I am Israeli, the way they react, they react very warmly.”


Much of the angst about Kosovo’s alleged radicalism centres on the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), an organisation that no longer even exists.


It was a short-lived guerrilla movement that rose up against Slobodan Milosevic’s régime, first to fight for independence from an apartheid-like system, and later as a defence against mass murder and ethnic-cleansing. The KLA was always thoroughly secular and in no way resembled a Balkan Hamas or Hezbollah.


Its leaders also distinguished themselves from their Bosnian counterparts when they flatly refused assistance from Arabic mujahideen who wanted to fight a holy war there against Serbs. Albanians don’t fight religious wars, not against themselves, and not against others.


There has been no fighting or even tension between Muslim and Christian Albanians, only between Serbs and Albanians.

The danger in Kosovo isn’t that international peace keepers are nurturing a jihad state. Rather, a premature withdrawal may lead to a resumption of the fighting between Serbs and Albanians that they moved in to stop in the first place.

 

The author’s website is michaeltotten.com
COMMENTS: 35

COMMENTS

Anonymous
June 27th, 2008
12:06 PM
Could you please address the issue of the alleged torching of Orthodox churches and of the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Serbs and other minorities.

Kevin
June 27th, 2008
3:06 PM
Michael, On many Orthodox websites, one reads continually of the oppression, annexation, and abuse of Orthodox Christians in Kosovo and Albanian. You mention Catholics but not Orthodox, which is interesting because Albania was part of the Orthodox world in the past. As the Orthodox-Catholic divide has involved worse abuses than the Catholic-Protestant, I'm curious. The claims include the confiscation of monasteries, rape of nuns, and forcible relocation of people. Comments?

Patrick S Lasswell
June 27th, 2008
5:06 PM
There is a question on the authenticity of the reporters on the Orthodox web sites. It is possible the reporters are Serb Nationalists covering their own depredations. It is also possible that bad things happen in a war, and that the Balkans are usually at war.

Anonymous
June 27th, 2008
6:06 PM
Patrick, there is video evidence of the Albanians using the burnt out ruins of Serbian Orthodox Monasteries as urinals. There is also video evidence of the desecration of Serbian churches. Look it up on Youtube! To state that there is even a possibility of Serbs of any persuasion doing this for publicity sakes is adding insult to injury so please do not insult their intelligence! Over one hundred and eighty churches and monasteries have been destroyed, dynamited and burnt to the ground since 1999 by the Albanians. Ask yourself, or whoever you want why is there a 90% Albanian majority in Kosovo today? The answer is simple they have ethnically cleansed the rest of Serbs and other minorities. It is totally naive on your part to say that the Balkans are usually at war. Read your history before you make such fatuous comments.

Tertium Quid
June 27th, 2008
6:06 PM
Michael Totten has already said that in the Balkans there are no innocents.

Michael J. Totten
June 27th, 2008
8:06 PM
It is true that Serbian Orthodox churches have been vandalized by Albanians in Kosovo. (Catholic churches have not been.) There is no excuse for this whatsoever, obviously, but realize this is a result of ethnic conflict, not religious conflict. Catholics were ethnically-cleansed in Kosovo -- by Serbs, not by Albanian Muslims.

Mel
June 27th, 2008
11:06 PM
@ Anonymous First of all, excuse my bad English; I’m not a native speaker. It’s an interesting article but definitely a snap-shot. My native country is Bosnia and therefore I have no reason to protect the Kosovo-Albanian interests, but I’m familiar with the actual facts. Fact is - Balkan is the powder-keg of Europe. I’m afraid that all the peace agreements and state formations are not enduring. The animosity between Serbs and Albanians reach far back to the Battle of Kosovo in 1389 and the victory for the Ottomans – the Serbs never got over the loss. But let’s cut it short. The repression of the Kosovo-Albanians has a long history, it started already in 1981. The student riot, they were fighting for equality with the other constituent states in former Yugoslavia, introduced segregation in almost all spheres of life and the impact on people was pervasive. Kosovo became the poorhouse of the region. In my opinion, it’s quite comprehensible that they wanted to separate from Serbia and given the fact that the community of states of Yugoslavia has fallen apart, it’s above all eligible. After more than 25 years of repression and suffering there is no or only little willingness to live together. Though I must say that the Serbs were not banished – ethnic cleansing happened in Bosnia but not in Kosovo. So why did the Serbs leave? I would say it was initiated from Belgrade, stoking fears among the population. Unfortunately, propaganda has become a vital and common tool, worldwide.

Kosovar
June 28th, 2008
12:06 AM
Mr Anonymous do you know how many Mosques have been completely burned down by Serbs. What you see in the video is individuals. Since you know a lot about Kosovo I am sure you know that there are a lot of Orthodox and Christian Albanians, and for Albanians religion has never been an issue.

Graham Marrs
June 28th, 2008
1:06 AM
Michael, Your post puzzles me. You must be aware that Albania was an enthusiastic ally of the Nazis in WWII, and in fact formed a separate Albanian Army to assist with Operation Barbaroza. As noted by comenters above, you refer only to Catholic relations. The Croats (also generally pro-Nazi) have a Catholic base, but the Serbs are basically Orthodox Christian. And the Albanians, under their Nazi German mentors, committed many, many atrocities against the Serbs during WWII. The Serbs were a large majority in Kosovo prior to WWII, but were ethnically cleansed during that war by Albania with Nazi assistance. Please look into the Albanian/Orthodox relationship at present.

Dardan
June 28th, 2008
2:06 AM
Serbs always somehow manage to forget crimes they committed against others,they forget that they themselves started former Yugoslav wars,first in Slovenia,then Croatia,Bosnia and later Kosova.They forget,they first started to burn places of worship in those wars.Serbs talk about Serbs being ethnically cleansed,but forget to mention all those Croats,Albanians,Bosniaks they cleansed,they are the first to use those methods in Europe since Second World War!!!

Mel
June 28th, 2008
2:06 AM
As for the Islam on the Balkan, it used to be liberal – until 1992. One can't help but notice that things are changing for the worse. Last year I went back home to Sarajevo, I was running a development project for one year, and I saw the changes on the Balkan. Here is an example: there are more than 100 mosques in Sarajevo, relicts from the Turkish Ottoman Empire. Unimposing historical buildings. The new built mosque has the size of 8000 square meters! It’s impressive. Before, you could hardly ever see covered women in public, now it seems to be very trendy wearing headscarves, even teen girls do it. You can also see women with a head- face cover and wearing black garments covering her down to the feet. Men with long beards. Well, someone wouldn’t consider it alarming because they are still a minority and Islamic clothing is nothing usual within the Arab communities in European major cities. Maybe you are right – but there is one thing which troubles me. 1) there is no Arab community on the Balkan 2) it’s the new state of mind. The Balkan war started 1992, the NATO bombing was in 1994. What happened during the two years? A massacre. The Catholics got support from Germany, the Orthodox from Russia and the Muslims got slapped with sanctions. The European foreign policy failed. That was an utterly devastating sign they sent to the Balkan Muslims. Isolation creates radicalism – it’s not a new perception. Today, the majority of the Balkan Muslims celebrate Ramadan, they fast and they pray – things they haven’t done before 1992. And these - still liberal - Muslims are facing a threat not from Islam per se, but from Wahhabism. By the way, Wahhabism is not only a problem on the Balkan; GB and France are struggling with that as well. And while the European politicians are busy negotiating with Iran, they ignore the religious alacrity in Europe.

Anonymous
June 28th, 2008
3:06 AM
the Serbian Orthodox Church is Not really a Christian Church, they are a SERBIAN church and that's why they supported Mladic and Karadzic, even Milosvic was too moderate for them. No one is touching Catholic of Protestant Churches in Kosovo, or throwing out Christians, it's Serbian propaganda. The Albanian national hero is a Catholic and so is Mother Teresa. The Serbs have pretty much ensured that virtually all converted Albanians will be Catholics as suppose to Orthodox. After destroying every Croatian Catholic Church in Krajina and Bosnia, committing unspeakable acts of genocide and mass rapes, the Serbs have found Christianity and are asking their "Christian brothers" for help by lying to them. Kinda funny. The Serbian Church spread hate and as soon as the Albanians got autonomy in 1974 they started with the "rape" stories and damages to the churches. When academics looked, ALL crimes were lower in Kosovo than Serbia. Google "Serbian Church Karadzic" and "Michael Sells Serbian Church" and you will see that they have nothing to do with Christianity, they merely want more land for Serbia. They are plenty of Christian missionaries there and in Kosovo they have more rights than in Serbia, where the Serbian Orthodox Church is favored.

Anonymous
June 28th, 2008
3:06 AM
>>Ask yourself, or whoever you want why is there a 90% Albanian majority in Kosovo today? The answer is simple they have ethnically cleansed the rest of Serbs and other minorities. Or maybe it was 75% in 1912 when Serbs brutally occupied it (this is missing from Serb history books; they call it 'liberation') and despite all the Albanians sent to Turkey and immigrants to Germany, Switzerland Albanians have more children. Kosovo was ALWAYS the poorest region, why would people with options stay there? People need to eat. Serbs are losing population each year thanks to abortions and Slobo's policies, albanians are not. Now they are 130,000 Serbs in Kosovo so it's impossible for "hundreds of thousands of them" to have been expelled when they were 200,000 to begin with. Many who raped, beat up and looted left with the Serb soldiers, others went north on in their cities, or others have had enough with wars and settled in Serbia. Confiscations of monasteries are impossible: there is an office that has returned 16,000 properties to its claimants, they even ordered the return of Serbian Church land seized by Slobodan. On damaged churches: whatever was done was not done because of religion, it was because of the radical views and spreading of hate from the Serbian Orthodox church agaist Albanians. Serbs also wiped out some 40% of houses, every mosque, every historical building, raped some 20,000 women and killed quite a few men. People were mad to say the least. (Serbs of course deny these things. They never happened, Serbs are good Christians after all)

Ari
June 28th, 2008
3:06 AM
It is true that Serb Orthodox Churches have been damaged by Albanians but then that's only because they are Serb and because of the ugly role that Serb Church has played in the wars. Albanians are the only people in the Balkans where you can come from any of the big three religions and still be Albanian.

Anonymous
June 28th, 2008
4:06 AM
Serbs and warmongers!!!

Tim
June 28th, 2008
10:06 AM
I’m a retired USAF Lt Col with about six years in the NATO southern region (1999 – 2005). I’ve seen Kosovo up close from the ground and helicopter on numerous occasions. The only orthodox churches remaining are ringed with excessive amounts of barbed wire and guarded 24/7 by KFOR. When and if KFOR departs, so will all traces of the orthodoxy. The people (K-Serbs and K-Albanians) seem to be decent enough folks. But there is an undercurrent of indoctrinated hatred for one another that trumps all reason. Undisturbed, the malcontent feelings lay dormant somewhere in the soul of every Kosovar citizen. But given the right mixture of incitement (such as in the March 04) those emotions manifest and explode into violence. I was personally present for that one. I could go on and on about the things I’ve seen there and in Bosnia, but it would only be repeating the obvious. There is no forgiveness or forgetting in the Balkans.

Stephen Schwartz
June 28th, 2008
4:06 PM
I will comment on three matters brought up here. First, Albanians as a whole were never "part of the Orthodox world." Albanian Orthodox Christians live in central and southern Albania, not in Kosova or Macedonia or north Albania, which were Catholic before becoming Catholic and Muslim, except for brief periods of Byzantine, Bulgarian, and Serb domination. Second, Kosova has an Albanian majority of 90 percent now for the same reason it had one in 1912 when Serbia invaded; Serbs have not been a major element in Kosova since at least the 17th century, and were a minority before that as shown by contemporary historical and population record. There are still some 200,000 Serbs in Kosova, which everybody who goes there knows, along with members of other minorities. As to the inflated claims about destruction of Serbian religious properties, most Westerners never found out that more than half of the mosques and Sufi structures in Kosova were completely destroyed by the Serbs in 1998-99. Serb structures that came under later attack were mainly "political churches" built since the 1980s to symbolize Slav domination. Such retaliation was abominable but has ended, while Serb threats and aggression against Albanians continue.

Anonymous
June 28th, 2008
7:06 PM
>>> The Serbs were a large majority in Kosovo prior to WWII, but were ethnically cleansed during that war by Albania with Nazi assistance. ---

You're either a liar or gullible enough to have fallen for Serbian propaganda. Serbs did manege to make the numbers better by expelling Albanians pre-WWII, by confiscating Albanian Lands and sending Albanians to Turkey but still, even after that and bringing 70,000 settlers Serbs were never more than 28%. If some Albanians saw the Italians as liberators it wasn't because they loved the Nazis, it was because Serbs were much worst to them. 1990's made it clear for everyone why: now imagine what they did in th e1920's when cameras weren't around. Yes, the recent settlers were sent packing and Albanians got their land back.

Now, tell us about Serb collaboration with the Nazis: how Belgrade became the first Judenrein city in Europe. Tell us about Zbor, Serbia Volunteer Guard, Kosta Pecanac, Nedic and Draza Mihailovic (who focused more on killing Croats, Muslims and Partizans than fighting the Germans.) Why were the names of Nazi concentration camp prisoners in cyrillic? Could it be because the guards--tens of thousands of them--and executioners were Serbs? How come only 1500 out of 16000 Jews survived? How come Jews and Gypsies were used fill the 100 number to be executed for each German casualty?

As soon as Tito promised that they 1912 injustice would be rectified, Albanians in masse joined the Partisans (just as Albanian in Albania did). When Tito lied, it took them over a year to crush the post war Albanian rebellion.

Anonymous
June 29th, 2008
3:06 PM
Michael Totten & Other Viewers Pardon what in the preview of this post appears to be a bunched up post. If this post comes up as such, I'm at a loss of knowing why. Besides the Serbs, other non-Albanians in Kosovo have faced problems from Albanian nationalists. During WW II, Serbia wasn't recognized as a country by the Nazis, like the Nazi acting Ustasha regime in Croatia, which had the Jasenovac concentration camp. This contrasts sharply from what was going on in Serbia at the time. Nedic and Ljotic aren't to be confused with the majority of Serbs who either supported Mihailovic or the Partizans. Debunking the pro-Kosovo Independence Claims http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/52219 The Press and Kosovo http://www.counterpunch.org/averko03042008.html

Mark B.
June 30th, 2008
2:06 AM
I wanted to thank all the participants in this discussion for the nature of their posts. This was a very educational discussion without the typical name calling that often results from angry responders. I learned a lot. And I have a lot more to learn. And want to thank you all for helping me understand more fully the complex issues of that region and the people. Many thanks, Mark U.S.

Albiqete
June 30th, 2008
5:06 AM
Dobrica Cosic Former Serbian President “We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others; we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else’s misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying ie is the trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate smartness. We lie creatively, imaginatively, inventively.” Six pivotal themes in Serbian propaganda are 1. Victimization, in which Serbs were constructed as collective victims first of the NDH, then of Tito’s Yugoslavia, and more specifically of Croats, Albanians, Bosnians, and other non-Serbs. 2. Dehumanization of designated ‘others’, in which Croats were depicted as ‘genocidal’ and as ‘Ustaše’, Bosnians were portrayed as ‘fanatical fundamentalists’, and Albanians were represented as not fully human. These processes of dehumanization effectively removed these designated ‘others’ from the moral field, sanctifying their murder or expulsion. 3. Belittlement, in which Serbia’s enemies were represented as beneath contempt. 4. Conspiracy, in which Croats, Slovenes, Albanians, the Vatican, Germany, Austria, and sometimes also the Bosnians as well as the U.S. and other foreign states, were seen as united in a conspiracy to break up the SFRY and hurt Serbia. In this way, the Belgrade regime’s obstinate disregard for the fundamental standards of international law was dressed up as heroic defiance of an anti-Serb conspiracy. 5. Entitlement, in which the Serbs were constructed as ‘entitled’ to create a Greater Serbian state to which parts of Croatia and Bosnia would be attached, under the motto,’ All Serbs should live in one state.’ 6. Superhuman powers and divine sanction. The Serbs were told that they were, in some sense, “super”. They were the best fighters on the planet, they could stand up to the entire world, and they were sanctioned by God himself, because of Tsar Lazar and the fact that Lazar had chosen the heavenly kingdom. Moreover, since Lazar had chosen the heavenly kingdom, the Serbs, encouraged to view themselves as Lazar’s heirs, were entitled to the earthly kingdom which Lazar had repudiated, as their patrimony. Serbian society began to stray down the path to war more or less unwittingly. Already in the years 1981—86, long before the other republics experienced anything like a ‘national awakening’, Serbia (and here one may include Kosovo too) was already sliding into a syndrome in which myths, threats, the allure of victory, and belligerent rhetoric filled the public discourse, giving Serbs a sense of common destiny but also separating them, psychologically, from the other peoples of socialist Yugoslavia. That this was an unhealthy state of collective mind is clear from the prominence of the themes of victimization, conspiracy, national entitlement, and divine sanction of the Serbian national project, as well as from the insistent campaigns of dehumanization, demonization, and belittlement of Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians, as well as other peoples and states, which began at this time. This syndrome, in an individual, would be considered psychotic; to the extent that it permeated much of Serbian society, perhaps especially in the countryside, one may speak of Serbia having been sucked into a kind of collective psychosis. And to the extent that Serbian war propaganda aimed at reinforcing and stimulating this state of mind, we may say that it aimed at inculcating and reinforcing neurotic and psychotic syndromes in Serbian society. This psychosis had its cultic saints – portraitsof Miloševiæ and Chetnik leader Draža Mihailoviæ were often displayed alongside those of saints canonized by the Church – had its bards (such as Simonida Stankoviæ and Ceca Ražnjatoviæ), and even had its official music – “turbo-folk”, a pop mixtureof folk-ethnic style with a rhythmic pounding beat. Moreover, this psychosis could even transport those infected to a state of consciousness which they mistook for a better world. Miloševi, for example, arriving dramatically at Kosovo polje in a helicopter on 28 June 1989, told those gathered for the six hundredth anniversary of Serbia’s mythic confrontation with its national destiny, that in that the - century battle, Serbia had defended not just herself but all of European culture and civilization. Fine oratory might even be called the elixir of national psychosis.

Craig C. Penniston
June 30th, 2008
5:06 AM
Mr Stephen Schwartz hides his muslim name whenever convenient. Suleiman Schwartz is hardly unbiased and is executive director of Center for Islamic Pluralism

Anonymous
June 30th, 2008
3:06 PM
Plenty of anti-Serb sentiment expressed here. serbia minus Kosovo is more multi-ethnically tolerant than Kosovo. This explains why the latter is understandably not trusted to completely govern the south serb province. As for "lies," there was a good deal of lying for the Albanian nationalist cause. Here's one of several examples: http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws001/cbc01.htm Another having to do with trumped up casualty figures to encourage foreign intervention.

Dirk Blade
July 2nd, 2008
11:07 AM
Ignoring the ad hominen attacks on Mr Schwartz, to amplify what he and Mr Totten have have written. The Serbian Orthodox Church has since the early 1990s effectively been a branch of Serbian nationalism. The Orthodox building in downtown Pristina is a crude assertion of Belgrade's political authority, and was designed to intimidate the K Albanian population. Likewise, the still-unfinished St Sava's in Belgrade was not a response to increasing religious observance among the Serbs, but a public monument to Milosevic's - and Kostunica's - commitment to a Serbian nationalist revival. This parallels, though not exactly, the co-option of the Orthodox church in Russia by the Putin regime. Bosnia is somewhat different. Certainly Sarajevo appears a more Islamic space than it did ten years ago. But it has always been difficult to sort out what is politically-motivated hysteria from genuine fears about the influence of Arab-financed mosque building and cultural programmes. There are often-repeated allegations of financial incentives to grow a beard or wear a veil, which is obviously attractive in the depressing economic climate. But fears of Wahhabi/Salafist encroachment are exaggerated, as are the impact of the ex-mujahide'en. The failure of the Barcic group nr Sarajevo to develop any momentum illustrates this point. Bosnian Muslims don't like being told what to do by foreigners. There are reports of local students being 'indoctrinated' overseas and having more success, but these are largely anecdotal. And Bosnia is still one of the few places in the world where Salafists come off second-best in a shoot-out with the locals. This situation could change, of course, but (pro-Serb?) hysteria about foreign-funded Islamists penetrating the soft underbelly of Europe with NATO's help so far seem unfounded, and, by exaggerating the existing threat could undermine longer-term efforts at maintaining the 'European' brand of Islam in the region against Arab versions.

Anonymous
July 4th, 2008
12:07 AM

Serbs have a way of falsifying history and ignoring what they have done to others too. For example, if you ask them, the Kosovo Battle is the epic battle where their knights chose death over the Turk yolke despite enormous odds and Kosovo is theirs for ever because of that. Well, Lazar and many of his knights actually surrendered, and most others run away:

"The fact that Lazar and a good number of his knights surrendered in a vain attempt to save their lives did not excuse Vuk's failure to continue fighting...Vuk's treason was the direct result of a propaganda campaign initiated by Milica's supporter's as part of her quarrel with the prince."

Passage from "The Balkan Wars: Conquest, Revolution, and Retribution from the Ottoman Era to the Twentieth Century and Beyond" pp. 29 By Andre Gerolymatos

After the surrender, Lazar's daughter was married to the Turkish Sultan and Serbs helped them fight against Albania's Scanderbeg, Hungarians; Serbs lead siege of Constantinople and along with the Turks Serbs won the battle of Nicopolis against Balkans Christians. Many other battles from "heroic" Serb vassals space does not permit to enter here. Their entire history is essentially based on that lie, that Serbs fought bravely and Lazar choose the "eternal Kingdom" versus the earthy one. Well, Lazar surrendered like a coward to save his own skin, and Andre Gerolymatos is a very well respected Greek scholar and professor.


Mamijot
July 15th, 2008
5:07 PM
"AM Michael, Your post puzzles me. You must be aware that Albania was an enthusiastic ally of the Nazis in WWII, and in fact formed a separate Albanian Army to assist with Operation Barbaroza. As noted by comenters above, you refer only to Catholic relations. The Croats (also generally pro-Nazi) have a Catholic base, but the Serbs are basically Orthodox Christian. And the Albanians, under their Nazi German mentors, committed many, many atrocities against the Serbs during WWII. The Serbs were a large majority in Kosovo prior to WWII, but were ethnically cleansed during that war by Albania with Nazi assistance. Please look into the Albanian/Orthodox relationship at present." !!!!!!!!!! Graham, Congrats, for winning the price for .....ignorance. In case you don't find it to your full satisfaction, you can opt for the only remaining alternative: price for slander and defamation. Whatever you choose is welldeserved! I only exceptionally allow myself to use this kind of langauge, but your comment was more than inspiring to do so. Not for your information, but for that ofother readers with even a minimal interest ont he truth, Albania was never an ally of the Nazi, but instead a victim. Albania stood stronlgy against the invaders, both the Italians and the Germans, although with minimal sources compared to them. Rightly, the country was officially part of the interantional coallition that fought the battle against fascism, and at the end of WW II was recognized among the winners. The country did not have to pay any reparations to other parties, but instead receive from Italy and Federal Republic of Germany. The horrible resemblance with the psychological background in which the Nasism was nurtured in the period between the two WW, is with the today's Serbia. Is a really shocking truth that goes often ignored and/or unreported.The even more worrying differnec si that while in Germany with the death of the Fuhrer, Nasism died and Germans started their cleaning machinery, in Serbia there are not yet signs that this is going to happen. Regarding the Albanian /Orthodox relationships if by that you mean the attitude towards Orthodox churches in Kosovo, I would like to say that if they will continue to spread poison and ethnic heatress as they are doing, instead of serving religion they can hardly justify themselves. I have fresh memories from visiting them, and know what they stand for and what their real mission is.They are as good in instituting heatress for the non-Serbs as some extremist islamist Mosques are for calling for the extermination of Jews and other "infidels"

David Greenberg
July 22nd, 2008
9:07 AM
Since when is a relationship to Israel a measure of your value? the issue of Kosovo is not whether it is Islamist- the issue is if it is a conduit for Islamists due to its Islamic identity. Then there is the far more important question of Kosovar mafia, and nationalism, which has brutal consequences for Macedonia and Yugoslavia. How can I tell your article from hack work?

chris johnson
July 22nd, 2008
10:07 AM
Just when I think I've got a fair grasp of the situation, it's blown apart, wider than the gulf of opinion, as expressed in the comments so far. So I'm back to research some more on the former Yugoslavia. The worrying thing is that as hotly contested as the whole thing is, as diverse and opposing are the main protagonists positions, the EU have come down solidly on the muslim side as demonstrated by the declaration of Kosovan indepenance, and the immediate response from Europes leaders. For ordinary people, there's religion and for their leaders, there's the POLITICS.

Stjepan
July 24th, 2008
8:07 AM
Serbs are the monsters of Europe. Murdered quarter million, ethnically cleansed 5 million of Croat Catholics, Bosnian Muslims and Kosovar Albanians of Muslim and Catholic Creed. Serb Orthodox Church in Bosnia and Croatia penned projects how to massmurder hundreds of thousands Croats. Just take a look at the history of Karadzic hiding in Orthodox Churches. Cheers from a Croat who truly loves Kosovar Albanians who die for their nation but never their religion. I envy you people. You sacrificed your lives for Croatian independence, and I want to congratulate for your Kosovo independence! Long live Croatia! Long Live Kosovo!

PJD
July 24th, 2008
7:07 PM
Stjepan: "Murdered quarter million" - that figure has long been debunked. "history of Karadzic hiding in Orthodox Churches" - these were only rumours. Stephen Schwartz's comment is mainly nonsense. Kosovo didn't even have 90% Albanians in 1981 let alone in 1912. A "major element" is hard to define, but Serbs were around 25% of the population from WWII to the early 1960s. There is evidence to suggest that there were as many Serbs in what is now Kosovo as Albanians in the 19th century. There were less than 200,000 Serbs in the 1991 census so it is extremly unlikely there is more than that now. 100,000 would be a much more likely figure. Bizarre how he understates the number of Serbs before the 1990s but tries to overstate them now.

Stjepan
July 28th, 2008
8:07 AM
Karadzic is a only a product created from the inspirational manifestos of how to annihilate nonSerbs in Yugoslavia. "Fina Solution on how to annihilate Albanians" written by Cubrilovic, an authentic inspiration by other monstrous mindss is one of the best examples.

Anonymous
July 30th, 2008
6:07 PM
In Kosovo, by contrast, almost all women, even in small villages, dress like women in the rest of Europe. Streets, cafés, restaurants, and bars are not all-male affairs as they are in much of the Islamic world, where women spend almost all their lives behind walls. If it weren’t for the occasional mosque minaret on the skyline, there is little visible evidence that Kosovo is a Muslim-majority country at all. Kosovo looks, feels, and is European.

Kosovo is deep rooted clan society, arranged and forced marriages is common along with gruesome blood feuds. If one could make some parallel it would be mafia structures in Sicily but I doubt that it is a common interpretation of what’s feels and is European.

It was a short-lived guerrilla movement that rose up against Slobodan Milosevic’s régime, first to fight for independence from an apartheid-like system, and later as a defence against mass murder and ethnic-cleansing.

Well KLA did appear on the scene when Tito parted from the Yugoslavian project, that is long before Milosevic. The albanization of Kosovo have been a project long before KLA was created the 1974 autonomy didn’t come from thin air. The militarization of the project have probably much more to do with Tito’s death than Milosevic.

In Yugoslavia Kosovo had record population growth rate, Serb and other ethnic groups share on steady decline over the decades. Serbs did almost keep up in absolute numbers, that they did not have “normal” growth was due to lower birthrates and exodus of Serbs from Kosovo.

One resemblance with Islamic countries is the steady decline of minority ethnicities and religions, there for some reason some parts of the world where multiculturalism don’t thrive.

Kosovo face enormous problems, to just keep up they need a steady economic growth rate about 5%, to improve it should be around 7%. This is not any new Monaco, Hong Kong, Singapore and so on. Poor education, poor infrastructure, insufficient rule of law, pre-industrial social structures is just some of the problems. If the steady population growth continue Kosovo will have doubled its population in 30-40 years (and there is already a water problem with its present population) and then is already a significant part of its Kosovars in working age living abroad. And then one hasn’t even touched the European problem of Kosovo as an drug, trafficking and criminal hub in Europe.

The socialist modernization didn’t succeed in will the neo-liberal do it.

Genti
August 2nd, 2008
8:08 PM
To the last comment. Serbian propaganda embedded through written memos how to exterminate the Albanians such as the the on of Cubrilovic's "Final Solution on Annihilation of Albanians in Yugoslavia" is another proof.

Fatoni
August 5th, 2008
6:08 AM
Everyone should read this article, it might explain a lot http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D0CEEDA1E3AE633A25752C3A... And there is more for those who want to research.

Anonymous
August 9th, 2008
6:08 AM
Why don't you mention that the Saudis are opening up Mosques across the country or that 4 of the Dix Hills military terror plotters came from Kosovo? Kosovo will be just like all the other Islamic states. Non-Muslims will be persecuted there, no matter what kind of spin you want to put on the country. "Moderate" Islam is not coming to the rescue.

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