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You can find a similar disinclination to do American homework in film and book criticism. It was telling, for instance, that almost none of the Britons who reviewed Philip Roth's latest book Indignation realised that the "Winesburg College" at which much of the novel's action takes place is a) fictional and b) a deliberate and freighted reference to one of the classics of 20th-century American fiction. Any American literature student with even a basic acquaintance of the US literary canon would have at least heard of Sherwood Anderson's Winesburg, Ohio and probably know that its component stories are peopled by Midwestern grotesques.

This is not to say that Americans don't get British cultural references horribly wrong. Woody Allen's recent films made in London are all but unbearable in their crude and clueless take on English class and English manners. Allen radically overestimates his understanding of English subcultures and overestimates their similarity to those he knows in America (WASPs are not the same as Sloanes, even if they do have much in common). This may indicate a generational shift; earlier generations of American writers and film makers were more likely to "get" things English.

Certainly my own father, the exiled American filmmaker Carl Foreman, had a remarkable understanding of the kind of cultural subtlety that Allen misses. This was at least in part because like so many Americans educated before the Second World War, he was steeped in British literature. If you had read enough Dickens, Hardy, Fielding, Austen, Thackeray, Lawrence and so on, you were much more likely to notice and understand the cultural texture of Britain in the '50s, '60s and '70s. From the day my father stepped off the boat in 1953, he was stunned by the familiarity of places, phrases and social types that he had known only from books, whether he was visiting the East End, a Welsh mining village or the House of Lords. Today, it's hard to imagine a state-educated American whose schooling would have been so extraordinarily anglophile or a course of reading that would enable him immediately to understand a society that has changed so much in such a short time that even the natives are confused by it.

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Anonymous
December 3rd, 2008
1:12 PM
Perhaps the citizens of the USA should look at the reasons we do not trust them. For instancecitizens of the UK need visas to visit the USA. there is no requirement the other way around. It may also come as a surprise to the average US citizen that, since around 1944 US service personnell are exempt from prossecution by the British authoroties for even the most serious offences such as murder or rape. These are just two of thens many I distrust America. George Bush and some of his more extreme policies ad to this and my total lack of desire to visit your country. PS Please remover all your service personnell from the UK and the rest of Europe as soon as possible

Brianson
December 2nd, 2008
3:12 PM
As a Canadian with immediate family in both nations, it is true that many Canadians have comfortably settled on the media created images of both The U.K. and the USA. A sometimes amusing too often disturbing falsehood. I would imagine your view of me is similarily shaped. Interesting...think Indiana jones meets Basil Fawlty, raised by Lord Nelson and the Queen Mother in a hockey rink, and you'll get it close for a lot of us, well, me for sure. Super magazine just discovered it!

Thomas
December 1st, 2008
10:12 PM
Anonymous @ 6:11 PM, you must be aware that the DC shooter Lee Boyd Malvo was spared the death penalty because he was a minor at the time of the crime. (His adult cohort John Lee Williams aka Muhammad is awaiting execution.) IIRC correctly this was a federal case, one of the rare applications of the federal death penalty. I could be wrong about that, it might have been a Virginia case. Anyway, can you name a single state that sentences minors to death?

Anonymous
November 29th, 2008
1:11 PM
1. Sorry, but the death penalty is not 'applicable' to minors in the US. I think this proves one of the main points of the article - that Brits think they know about the US because they have seen it on TV. 2.History will show that W was on balance a good president. 3. Despite stringent gun ownership laws in the UK gun crime is becoming increasingly common.

Anonymous
November 28th, 2008
6:11 PM
Small chip on the shoulder perhaps? Yes, Brits are aghast at rampant lax gun ownership, 2 terms of GWB, and the death penalty (applicable to minors). Quite right too. I imagine you agree too. And we Brits have many problems that we could so with advice on, such as youth crime in London and overly intrusive government. Why not focus on what should be improved? Oh and look to demographics for why we have less black politicians, get a woman president before you start down that avenue my friend.

Anonymous
November 28th, 2008
3:11 PM
A few years ago I spent a few months living and working in Bangladesh. The local Brits acted like sahibs,were grossly racist towards the locals and seemed to have the attitude that "we know all about it because we used to run the place". The Americans by contrast were friendly, curious, and willing to learn about the country and its culture. It's time the British got over their Imperial superiority complex.

Anonymous
November 28th, 2008
11:11 AM
Excellent article. I myself am an Anglo-American mix and agree that there is ignorance of the other on both sides of the pond. Yes, I find British ignorance of the US often stupifying and discourteous. True, Americans are often ignorant of the UK (and much of the world) but rarely are they downright rude in displaying this quality. Of course, I won't even mention the attitude of the French and many other continentals; their lack of awareness is outrageous. It is also underpinned with an hypocrisy of toe-curling silliness.

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